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Sample page without toning by ruina Sample page without toning by ruina
So I've been reaaaaally torn between whether or not to tone my pages lately, because I personally like what I'm doing more without the tones and when it's just all ink. I try to get away with minimal toning to begin with, but even that bothers me, probably because I really want to go all out if I'm going to tone at all but I choose not to. So maybe I should just... not tone at all...? x_x Or figure out a better balance that works for me?

Wondering if anyone would care to input what they think, since what I think is purely personal preference.

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Serenian Century (c) meeeeee.
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Pompi Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2011
I think the inked page looks great as it is. But I will admit, the toned version makes it easier to determine the characters. Personally, I prefer this version.

The toned version uses value to determine the focus, but in my opinion the grays add clutter because your detailed linework looks very nice as it is. Without tones, it looks a lot "cleaner" to me and it makes me pay attention to the details in your art. Those kind of get lost in the toned version, which is a bit saddening because those details are seriously amazing.

I think you could easily pull off a completely inked page without tones if you used more black fills and black shading. I think the reason this page looks better toned is because the lines and fills were designed for a toned page. Inking something with only black and white requires a different strategy for lines and fills, I think.
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ruina Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011   General Artist
Th-thank you! ;o;
That's interesting the way you said "the lines and fills were designed for a toned page," because as much as I hate to admit it, it's true! When I ink, somewhere in my mind I know I'll be toning Lionel's hair or Elthee's shirt or whatever, whether I like it or not, as long as I don't have a clear idea of how I'll be pulling off a completely toneless page in mind. I think I'll keep experimenting with this ink/tone balance. :x
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waterrulermisato Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
LOVE! I am trying to start drawing manga, and I love your style. Have any tips for a noobie?
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ruina Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011   General Artist
Thank you! :heart:
Hmm, if it's drawing style you need tips on, I can only say practice practice practice... maybe flip open your favorite manga and analyze what you like about the artist's style? Otherwise, although this may sound very obvious, plan everything out beforehand! From dialogue to page/panel sequencing! I used to not spend much time planning my earlier pages, so I really want to remake them all over again since looking at those old art and storytelling is really killing me inside. ;;
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waterrulermisato Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011
Thank you :) I am glad people are so nice about giving advice, I have my first panel up on here, and I am kinda looking up tips and things. If you wouldn't mind taking a look at my first page, I would appreciate it. The thing I am having trouble with is the coloring/shading, what type of pens do you use?
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ruina Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011   General Artist
I just wrote up a walkthrough of my manga process on my artblog, if you'd like to read through that for any ideas. :3 [link]
I wrote this in the blog post too, but I use Sakura Pigma Micron pens (generally 0.05, sometimes 0.1, and 0.5 and higher for panel lines, speech bubbles, and fills), and a 0.03 of the Copic Multiliner.
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waterrulermisato Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011
Ok I will check that out.
I heard that Sakura Pens most people on here I have seen use. I will have to invest XD
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Scrat-Riker Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm a fan of the toned page as well. It's easier on my eyes, and it's always pleasant to see it in places like hair. The stark black and white is sometimes a little distracting or busy. The artwork is fantastic by the way ^_^
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ruina Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011   General Artist
Ahh, I see. Thank you so much for your input! It's really helpful hearing viewer opinions on this, since I realized my views are biased from being too attached to the hours I spent drawing out those lines. xD;
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Scrat-Riker Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
No problem, I can definitely understand that. ^__^ Keep it up!
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